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- Subject: [chef] Re: CM/Chef API access for monitoring systems?
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 01:01:47 -0700
A monitoring system that utilizes Ohai data?
Stop it, you're teasing me. :-)
I'm keeping an eye on Assimilation.
On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Brad Knowles
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Folks,
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At the Bay Area Chef Users Group meeting tonight (see
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<http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Chef-User-Group/events/82878822/>), I
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got the pleasure of listening to Daniel talk about the new "whyrun" mode
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and some of the other new features of Chef. I'm always pleasantly
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surprised by the speakers that BAChef manages to bring in.
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We also had a question from the audience as to why we can't ever get a good
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monitoring system that is able to work hand-in-hand with a good CM system
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(like Chef), and so we're stuck with things like trying to write or
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implement Nagios NRPE modules and the monitoring system ends up being the
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heaviest thing we do -- it takes the most work to manage, it generates the
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most crap noise, it takes the longest to converge, and is generally very
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... unsatisfactory.
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Of course, there are other monitoring solutions out there, depending on how
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much information you want to monitor about each node, and how you want to
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go about gathering and using that information. But Zenoss doesn't seem to
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be measurably better in this particular area, nor does any other monitoring
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system that I am personally acquainted with.
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Now, I happen to know that Alan Robertson has been working on a new project
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called the Assimilation Monitoring Project (see <http://assimmon.org/>),
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and I believe that the architecture of AssimMon will scale better than any
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other monitoring system I know of. Of course, it is very much a
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work-in-progress, and there is still a lot left to do. But I think Alan is
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pretty well suited to the task, based on his work on the Linux-HA project
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and based on what I've seen of the talk he gave at LinuxCon 2012 about
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AssimMon (we're hoping to get the edited video for that posted very soon).
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However, it occurs to me that one of the things that a good monitoring
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system could make use of would be a relatively simple standardized API to
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be able to access things like Ohai discovered data regarding the nodes, as
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well as Chef-managed data regarding the nodes. There's no sense
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re-inventing the wheels that Chef has already invented, if you can
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relatively easily make use of what is already there.
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So, now I start to wonder what such a standardized API might look like, and
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what kinds of information might be useful for a monitoring system to be
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able to access regarding the nodes it should be monitoring?
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Which leads me to the idea of posting such a question on this list, to see
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if anyone else had any ideas or thoughts?
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Thanks!
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