[chef] Re: Re: [chef-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nodejs community CK mess

[Lamont Granquist < >]

On 7/20/14, 9:46 PM, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> In reality, only people who want to share cookbooks among their peers
> inside a company are likely to run their own Supermarket. And those
> won't be public.
Last time we had this discussion someone (ranjib?) wanted to fork the 
community cookbooks to produce an Amazon-Linux-centric set of 
cookbooks.  That's the way i would expect to see different sets of 
cookbooks arise.  Its not just because one author had a difference of 
opinion over a single cookbook, but because there was a broader need 
that wasn't getting met well by the community cookbooks.

And we've got a huge problem in scoping the community cookbooks that I 
already see occurring.  They try to be everything to everyone.  So all 
the ubuntus and redhats and (ideally) solaris and everything else, with 
binary installs and source installs crossed into every way an admin 
could want to do everything, and the result it the "don't look at the 
community cookbooks they're not good examples" problem because there's 
so much complexity caused by every use case.  Looking at the FreeBSD 
ports use case as the closest model they have a considerably easier 
problem because everything is getting compiled from source and 
everything is getting installed onto FreeBSD by definition.   I'd like 
to see a narrower focus on the ChefInc set of cookbooks, but that also 
means that other areas of focus will necessarily be left outside of the 
scope of those cookbooks.

BUT, it sounds to me like if you solve the internal supermarket case 
that I think you'll solve the public supermarket case as well.  The case 
of having an internal supermarket where your internal chef clients can 
point to either the community versions or the overridden internal 
cookbooks of the same name should solve the problems that I'm thinking 
of with multiple public supermarkets as well.  So, I'm pretty happy 
seeing the discussion start based around the internal use of supermarket 
and the problems that need to get resolved there.  That's the actual 
technical problem that needs to get solved in either case.