[chef] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Writing a Start Handler

[Jesse Nelson < >]

Nathan you are awesome. Thanks for calling out the help vampire.

On Aug 19, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Nathen Harvey < "> > wrote:

AJ,

We don't really have a method or process for banning people from our mailing list.  This might be a good topic for discussion as part of the Community Summits, part of our RFC process, and / or move the discussion to another fourm.

Douglas, et. al, 

What we do have are some published community guidelines on the docs site.

The guidelines include things like:

• Be welcoming, friendly, and patient.
• Be considerate.
• Be respectful.
• Be professional.
• Be careful in the words that you choose.
• When we disagree, let’s all work together to understand why.

Interacting with the community in a way that is outside of our community guidelines is unacceptable. 

Responses like "So it sounds like your basically saying this is a mess." with seemingly little effort to understand the help that's being offered is disrespectful, unprofessional, and inconsiderate.  It's clear that you're struggling with trying to understand the way handlers work.  It's not clear that you're interested in working to understand how they work or try things that will help.  

The term for this type of interaction is "help vampire".  Douglas, you are exhibiting some of the textbook behavior of a help vampire which is going to lead to frustration for you and those who try to help you.  Eventually, your questions to the list will be ignored unless this behavior improves.  I don't really think anyone wants that.

I am happy to discuss further with anyone at just about any time.

Thanks,
Nathen

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:35 PM, AJ Christensen < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

Someone should ban this guy from mailing list?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Daniel DeLeo < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
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> On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Douglas Garstang wrote:
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>> Ranjib,
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>> You said that using chef_handler is not an idea solution. If we look at the alternatives, I still don't understand where to put the files.
> Anywhere on the filesystem. If you want to package it up and share it, then you can create a rubygem, but this is overkill for many use cases.
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>> You mentioned a require statement. There's no require statement in the client.rb file, so I don't know where that's supposed to go.
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> You add it yourself, at the top of the file.
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>> If the files are present on the AMI before chef runs, I don't know where to place these files. Documentation would be immensely helpful.
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>> Douglas.
> Docs with some examples:
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> http://docs.getchef.com/handlers.html#id2
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> Daniel DeLeo
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