[chef] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chef Metal vs. Vagrant

[Torben Knerr < >]

Thanks everybody for the responses!

@Sören, Martin - thanks for pointing me to terraform again. I looked
at it once in the early stages but then basically forgot about it...

@JulianDunn, JohnKeiser - makes sense, much clearer now. +1 for
providing abstractions only where meaningful rather than being leaky
;-)


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:20 PM, John Keiser 
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> I'll explain the thinking and then the plan :)  Two of Chef's big goals are
> to let you:
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> 1. Describe your whole infrastructure in recipes.
> 2. Reuse the same recipes across the dev/test/deploy workflow wherever
> possible.
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> This means that we want to have resources for everything; but that they
> don't all have to be abstractions.
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> Chef Provisioning implements the secondary goal with abstractions like
> machine; but as Julian says, not everything can (or should) be abstracted.
> The plan is to provide abstractions where they are meaningful, and to
> provide cloud-, container- or vm-specific resources to manage things that
> don't fit that model.
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> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Julian C. Dunn 
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>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Torben Knerr 
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>> > Is the intention to provide some common abstractions (e.g for cloud
>> > queues, object storage, load balancers, etc) like Vagrant does for
>> > virtual machines too? Or is the aim to simply provide a higher level
>> > configuration DSL in favor of the specific commandline tools?
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>> I'm not sure. John Keiser would be the best person to answer.
>> However... I have talked to some folks about this and they've warned
>> us off the idea, because there is actually less commonality than you
>> might think amongst the cloud providers.
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>> Since I don't have broad operational experience with anything beyond
>> AWS I thought I'd merely relate that. If anyone can weigh in, we'd
>> certainly welcome the feedback.
>>
>> - Julian
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