- From: Daniel DeLeo <
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- Subject: [chef] Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?
- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:19:14 -0700
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
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I’ve several reasons to want chefdk on individual hosts:
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· Chef servers are, from painful personal experience, bulky, expensive to
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host, and destabilizing to dynamic, mixed environments. A single mistaken
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update to a data bag for a central service, or a simple cookbook update,
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can take down an entire environment by screwing up every host. Particular
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examples include:
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o Typos in ‘bind’ configuration files, for which there used to be no sanity
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checking and would break the ‘named’ service on restart.
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o The refactoring and non-backwards-compatible update to yum, splitting off
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“yum::epel” recipe to a separate “yum-epel” cookbook and breaking all the
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old cookbooks that relied on yum::epel.
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o The refactoring and non-backwards-compatible update to mysql, which went
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from a single MySQL instance configuration tool to an LWRP for multiple
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instances, and which deleted /etc/my.cnf.
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· Using chef-solo on individual hosts makes them much safer to modify and
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update.
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· chefdk is prefereable to the “chef-client” tool because already contains
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precompiled copies of the libgecode software, and I can pre-deploy it in a
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managed fashion to my chef-solo environments to manage their cookbooks
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individually.
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o I consider the components necessary to build libgecode to be
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inappropriate to install on lightweight, exposed servers of any sort. (gcc
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and g++, in particular, are begging for trouble to install on a production
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server.) chefdk is therefore, much, much safer than building libgecode.
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· I’d use librarian-chef instead of Berkshelf, but librarian-chef has a
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nasty tendency to update every depencency for your designated cookbook is
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unacceptable for daily use. This is unsafe, precisely because of the
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unexpected ‘yum’ and ‘mysql’ udpates I mentioned above.
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· If you have two sysadmins developing changes on the same cookbook pushed
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to the same chef server, you’re going to have conflicts when you both
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upload modified cookbooks with the same number. There is no way around this
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that fits the standard numbering schemes for chef: one of you can take a
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*much lower* build number and keep it out of the way of the other active
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developer, but that’s likely to cause confusion
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So, I use chef-solo for small environments, I use Berkshelf to manipulate
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localized chef cookbook selection on each host, and I use chefdk to get
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Berkshelf installed consistently.
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Now, if I could find and shave the yak responsible for making libgecode a
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requirement for Berrkshelf, I’d do so. But that code is a bit out of my
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personal reach to rewrite or publish fixes for.
You’re right about the risk of dynamic updates of code to Chef Servers;
that’s what the Policyfile feature seeks to address, and I hope you’ll give
it a shot as it becomes available.
As for the other parts of your workflow, it seems like this is exactly what
`berks package` is for.
--
Daniel DeLeo
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, (continued)
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Julian C. Dunn, 03/05/2015
- [chef] RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Nico Kadel-Garcia, 03/16/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, AJ Christensen, 03/16/2015
- [chef] RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Fouts, Chris, 03/17/2015
- [chef] RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Nico Kadel-Garcia, 03/17/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Daniel DeLeo, 03/17/2015
- [chef] RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Nico Kadel-Garcia, 03/25/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Daniel DeLeo, 03/25/2015
- [chef] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Peter Burkholder, 03/25/2015
- [chef] RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Nico Kadel-Garcia, 03/26/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Daniel DeLeo, 03/26/2015
- [chef] RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Nico Kadel-Garcia, 03/26/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Daniel DeLeo, 03/26/2015
- [chef] Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: No chefdk RPM available for RHEL 5?, Michael Weinberg, 03/26/2015
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